Stokes Wants to Bring Corporal Punishment Back to Classroom

I noticed this on the BBC News website today. What does everyone think? Should it be brought back?

i don't believe that using violence is punishment (especially for children, ffs!) is ever acceptable. it sends out the wrong message.

EDIT : violence AS punishment :') i need to learn to proofread

Yes, the amount of kids causing trouble knowing no one can even force them out of the room is unbelievable.. Give our teachers back their power! I remember the bad kids always had the upper hand because they knew nothing could be done to them

The whole thing is *******s; over half said yes to corporal punishment, yet when the wording changed to smacking/caning the number dropped, do the participants actually understand the question?

What about capital punishment in schools?

Worth a shot, surely?

Hell no.
Try caning a teenage male and the only thing you'll get is a ton of swears and a violent attack resulting in you needing a cane removing from a place where the sun don't shine.
Not something we should subject teachers to really.

(Original post by Harrifer)
What about capital punishment in schools?

Worth a shot, surely?

Teacher: " where is your maths book?"

Pupil " i forgot it.... "

Teacher " HANG HIM!!!!!!!!"

(Original post by bramz19)
Why do you presume that the caning would only being by the time the male was a teenager? It's a form of conditioning which starts when one is young with the purpose of disciplining. Thus, there wouldn't be teenage swears and tantrums.

Tbh, this entire argument is a waste of time, I don't think teachers nowadays would have the heart to and too many 'parents' would find it unacceptable, we just have to be resigned to the fact that there will be a lot of poor behaviour in schools which will result in very childish adults who think of the legal system and authority as a whole as a joke.

I'm not presuming that it would only be used by the time the child is a teenager. I am assuming that if corporal punishment was brought back in, then all children would be potentially subjected to it upon bad behaviour. Teenaged boys was just an example.

And you are must be either very naive to think that caning kids from a young age will somehow eliminate teenage recklessness, that is laughable. There will always be bad teens, a smack on the arse isn't going to get rid of that, not overnight, not ever.

Discipline can be kept in place with non-violent punishment. I think that punishment in school is too namby pamby these days, people are given too many chances and if they are expelled then they get back in on appeal which is wrong, but corporal punishment won't fix that.

There needs to be a zero tolerance policy of non-violent punishment such as detention and exclusion.

Perhaps bring back national service, for those children who are " Bad " and need some discipline , two years in the army would definitely set them straight i think.

Why do people who post these threads rarely offer their own opinion. If you think it's important enough to highlight then why not state where you stand on it

FWIW, the 'belt' didn't do me any harm

(Original post by viffer)
Why do people who post these threads rarely offer their own opinion. If you think it's important enough to highlight then why not state where you stand on it

FWIW, the 'belt' didn't do me any harm

Sorry i didn't want to come across as too biased. However yes i fully think it should be brought back, not to every teacher but maybe subject leaders and it has to be supervised by a senior member of a staff or something so no idiot child can complain it was too rough or something. It drives me mad when i see people miss behaving and then you ask them why they do it and its normally because they all know a teacher cant do s**t to them without getting investigated.

(Original post by harrybithell196)
It drives me mad when i see people miss behaving and then you ask them why they do it and its normally because they all know a teacher cant do s**t to them without getting investigated.

Thanks and I agree

We are reaping what the namby pamby liberals made us sow

To be honest, I don't see why not.

The only people that should be worried are the trouble makers and their troublesome family.

I'd much rather the disruptive children were just expelled.

I don't think caning would do much to stop them.

It'd hurt for five minutes, then they'd forget about it and start mucking about again.

I very seriously doubt that this is even legally possible, at any rate.

The parents must bring their children up properly. This means with respect for their teachers and class mates, morals and the mind-set that disrupting lessons is completely unacceptable.

I attend a state comprehensive and for its type it is quite good. Unfortunately you do encounter some (in my school's case it is a minority) extremely unpleasant characters and it's obvious from the way they've been brought up. At parents evening the parents would sit there challenging the teacher and they won't accept that their child was misbehaving. It's quite sickening that they have been given that outrageous attitude. What is even more upsetting is that they think it's OK to ruin everyone elses education. Yes, you can always ignore them, however they can be quite unrelenting and just love to harass others. People do need to learn to not burden others with their personal problems.

Of course teachers should be able to control disruptive classes, however classes shouldn't be that disruptive in such a hostile and threatening way. Teachers must be able to teach. Parents must discipline from an early age. If they are incapable of that, I am sorry, but what are they doing having children? You should know that children are demanding and it is your responsibility to ensure that they turn into decent human beings.

School is a place for learning, not for turning into anti-social criminals. If students are constantly pushing their luck causing a disadvantage for those around them, then the use of corporal punishment should be considered as a last resort. Other methods should be used beforehand. Although it rarely acts as the deterrent that it is supposed to be.

National service, as another poster mentioned. It actually makes sense, as the army is remarkably effective and instilling a sense of purpose and respect for authority into a wayward teen.

absolutely 100% YES.

this country started turning to s**t when it stopped being acceptable to discipline kids, and physical punishment is the only threat they really take seriously. I'm 23 now and my younger self would be gobsmacked to hear me saying it, but that's because I would have been a prime candidate for it. I'll never consider becoming a teacher until they are allowed to hit kids again. The disrespect starts in school and carries on into adulthood, and the result is what finally happened last month - riots. I was a little $**t back in school too but the only thing that stopped me going completely mental (like plenty of other kids I knew) was that my dad would have broken my legs. Many parents aren't bothered.
It'll never come back though.

Pupils shouldn't "fear" their teachers. Why the heck would I respect someone who just caned me? If a pupil is going to mess about and doesn't want to learn there isn't much you can do, hitting them is just going to make the situation worse. No Adult should have the right to hit a kid and any teacher who has to resort to this obviously failed at their job... hitting a child who is under their care is despicpable. Where do we draw the line, where does a "punishment" become abuse?

(Original post by Harrifer)
What about capital punishment in schools?

Worth a shot, surely?

So you're going for firing squad rather than hanging or the plug-in chair then?

I am interested in the mentality of a human who believes it is morally acceptable to hit a child but not an animal or adult. You people are hilarious. Surely children should be the ones given care and love. Adults don't need so much care and love, so why not allow bosses to smack a worker if they don't do as they are told?

Stokes Wants to Bring Corporal Punishment Back to Classroom

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